I mean, surely folks would know if a well-known, local who became a POI was in on the search? Down The Hill: The Delphi Murders HLN True Crime 3.7 10.4K Ratings; Abby and Libby - 2 young girls murdered. Mr. X was on the same team BUT was on the other side of the creek at the time, same for Erskin. Investigators were seeking a judges permission to search the propertyof Ronald Logan, who owned the land where the two girls were found dead. We will refer to this new informant as SPM2 for Search Party Member 2. Simply because Delphi, Flora fire, and prior fraud/scams, all would be the same crime. Ive looked at associates of the business owners of the Flora house fire, and there are some very interesting names, big names, powerful names, cop names, etc. Ive thought about that too, honestly. Gray makes over $100,000/year from his podcasts, which is fine by me. Compared to most single men his age, I dont think he has much animus towards young women at all. Perhaps its a violation of social rules, but thats not in the DSM yet. Logan was never formally named a suspect and never charged in the Delphi murders. McLeland said the public and media interest in the case rekindled after Allen's arrest, and Allen's wife had to flee the community. Follow on Twitter: @RonWilkins2. Rachel Fradette is a general assignment reporter at IndyStar. Speculation has mounted that Kline may be working on a plea deal with prosecutors, though it's still unknown if the search is related to his child porn case or the Delphi murders. If thats the case, wouldnt you think they would have been noticed the first day during the search? All that is known about the murders is that the girls' bodies were "posed," and undisclosed trophies were taken from each victim. However, they only cut pigs throats that way in kosher slaughterhouses. oh so he died recently? So he killed them and then left them a Valentines Day gift for Valentines Day! Tony Slocum said at the time, referring to Liberty. According to Leigh Kerr, the BG took locks of hair from the victims. Grays videos run to 3-4 hours and may contain five minutes of useful material if you are lucky during that time. An earlier version of this article misstated the date of Logans death. The agent also references the video on Libbys phone where the suspect says guys, down the hill. She confirms the full video is 43 seconds long. This is also a problem because brains go everywhere and this is probably how those prion diseases like Mad Cow disease are spreading. No one else has come close to uncovering the amount and quality of information we have, and almost the entire community rejects our findings even though they are correct. Indiana State Police made headway on Friday in the 2017 cold case commonly referred to as the Delphi Murders. Love your writing and insights. See how people are reading too much into this guy? that they must witness throughout their careers and how extremely difficult it must be to deal with. New comments cannot be posted and votes cannot be cast. Those with pertinent information can email, abbyandlibbytip@cacoshrf.com or call 765-822-3535. If the affidavit remains sealed, Rozzi said, it will make the prosecutors' and the defense attorneys' jobs more difficult since they will have to vaguely allude to allegations during arguments in future hearings, including the scheduled Feb. 17 hearing on whether Allen should be released on bond. Also Thursday, the Indiana Department of Correction said Richard Allen, who has been charged with murder in the deaths of Abby Williams and Libby German, has been moved to one of their facilities. Exactly. Inside Carroll County courtroom, reporters, sketch artists and the public packed the courtroom as dozens of police officers stood watch over the crowd and Allen. Basically nobody in town except a few people who dont like him thinks he did it. A man being eyed in the unsolved 2017 murders of two teens in Delphi, Indiana, has an "evil streak" and is "absolutely capable" of committing that type of crime, his brother said. 'Today is the day': Update to Delphi murders of Libby and Abby announced by ISP, Your California Privacy Rights/Privacy Policy. She said police hadn't contacted her about the search but had been for other significant developments. A very popular one is the observation that if the crime scene was this insane, it would have leaked out by now. He tells off women in passive-aggressive hostile posts. One of those suspects was John Miller, convicted in 2018 for a 1988 murder of an 8-year-old girl. The revelations come just two weeks after authorities released a redacted version of the probable cause affidavit that led to Richard Allen's arrest. So how did you get the crime scene photo?? An attorney for Kline declined to comment on the announcement. A kind of sick taunt? The public has an absolute right to the information, but at what cost? McLeland said. The latter seems to make most sense, but leaves the question to why the CSI guy lied to everyone, including his colleagues. How many more than one? Ive probably seen him. First, a pitch for support for this website and our sleuthing group: People are donating lots of money to Delphi podcasters Mike Greeno and Gray Hughes, which is their right. I don't know. February 24, 2017 Cookie Notice If not and it is him, did he know who THEY were? The officer seeks clearance and lets the male through the cordon. He was charged with a probation violation for driving with a suspended. Clear as day. Delphi Murders Delphi Murders Timeline: Disappearance, Years-Long Manhunt and the Possible Break Liberty German and Abigail Williams went for a hike on the afternoon of Feb. 13, 2017. Were not. And the new one we just talked to is saying that she was told not to tell anyone, but the scene was bugging and eating away at her so much that she just had to spill finally. That area was not searched until after dark on the 13th. Great Summary! And thats not even the start of the weirdness. "My worry is if he is trying to get a plea deal or whatever, then what if he's just telling them lies? Your email address will not be published. - Stunning new documents describe the scene where two young girls were murdered in Delphi, Indiana, five years ago. So they were alone with each other, supposedly, from ~2 pm to 3.30-4 pm on a Monday afternoon. He actually thinks women are going for bad men and leaving nice guys and good men like him alone. I read somewhere an account by a search party member from the night before, that one of the search party organizers prevented his group from searching the actual crime scene by saying you all cant go here, its been searched already. But our understanding is she never showed up, and there was no spare set in the first place, so she had nothing to bring him! Since then, police have formed a task force for the case, interviewed suspects and followed tips, eventually leading to Allen's arrest. Lot of men his age talk like that about women. How could that not be a stuffed animal? The next day, Abby, 13, and Libby, 14, were found murdered allegedly by the unidentified man Libby. We also believe that he never lost them in the first place, and they were probably in his pocket the whole time. Id assume the kind that is foggy? And also know if any of the POIs were around that night, right? Only a few seconds have been made public. This is an article with a description of the search - and pictures taken during the search (the day murder victims Abby and Libby were found). The Indiana detectives investigating the 2017 Delphi murders claimed on Thursday to have new leads in the case and warned their suspect that they know who he is - but are yet to make any. I appreciate your work. A search party was formed and volunteers and police searched the wooded area surrounding the bridge until slightly after midnight when the search was called off. It was unclear Monday whether Allen has an attorney. But there it is, sitting right there, staring us in our faces. I dont even know what that means. Indiana State Police. Thats how he knew they were going to be there at that date and time. His complaint is typical of tens of millions of single men his age in the US today. On February 14, 2017, the bodies of Abigail "Abby" Williams and Liberty "Libby" German were discovered off a hiking trail in Delphi, Indiana, United States, after the young girls had disappeared from the same trail the previous day. To this day they haven't been found. Theres a part where the helicopter flies over the crime scene and some people worked forever on that and somehow got some pics out of it. . A special needs woman and a toddler? Carroll County Prosecutor Nicholas McLeland said the probable cause affidavit and charging information are sealed by the court. Reach Ron Wilkins at rwilkins@jconline.com. They may have if they'd known the girls had been killed, but remember that until they found the bodies the worst they were prepared for was finding the girls badly injured or dead from exposure. His wife was with BP when the call came to Becky that the girls had been found. Contact her at rfradette@indystar.com or follow her on Twitter at @Rachel_Fradette. Please correct me if you know otherwise. Arrest made in Delphi case: Delphi man charged with murder in killings of Libby German and Abby Williams A search party found their bodies along Deer Creek, about a quarter of a mile east. I get accused of that all the time on here, as I pretty much lay my life out pretty bare and naked on here. Five years ago today, in Delphi, Ind., two best friends, Abigail Williams, 13, and Liberty German, 14, went missing while on a hike through the city's . In other words, its now proven that more than one stuffed animal was left at the scene. New information about the murders of Delphi eighth graders Liberty German and Abigail Williams became public Monday, and police have a man in custody. Hes just an ordinary AFC. We cannot publicly convict someone based on a single document which was not released by investigators. DELPHI, Ind. That should at least tell us something. (and probably always will) Obviously, they saw how their bodies were left and considering that, might have knowledge of how they were murdered from that scene. Theyre kept their main suspect pretty secret until Leaker showed up. DELPHI, Ind. By mid-morning, the downtown Delphi Fire Department became a makeshift command center for volunteers assisting in the search. It describes his activity the day the girls went missing. When the the girls did not show up for their ride home, Libby's family became concerned and family members started a search that was joined by many in the Delphi community. He has been hiding in plain sight, posting his artwork and cryptic statements on FB, etc. Its holding something in its hand. is that that damned stuffed animal is as tall as Abby. Mr. X? Almost yours: 2 weeks, on us 100+ live channels are waiting. And its likely that BG did work there, as youve pointed out, since he killed Libby the same way pigs are slaughtered. Here in Gary, about two years ago, a special needs woman and a toddler she lived with went missing. Didnt know, I dont know the gentleman personally at all. Allen is being held at the White County jail without bond and has hearing dates scheduled for January and March 2023. The agent also confirms the girls were followed by the suspect on the Monon High Bridge Trail in Delphi, and that there were no visible signs of a struggle or fight. A massive law enforcement presence arrives, and a double murder investigation begins . Breaks my heart that the family had to try so hard to get help. The arrest has been long awaited by the families of Liberty and Abigail, as well as for the community of Delphi, which has kept a close eye on the investigation. They supplied each others alibi, technically, without saying CSI guy is a suspect. Because the conditions of two men being alone with each other and out of sight of others for a significant period of time are pretty narrow. 0:04. Because this is a pending investigation, we do not have any details to share at this time., FBI Special Agent in Charge Herbert J. Stapleton. The Delphi Murder Tip Line was routed to the FBI's Major Case Contract Center in Washington, D.C because of the sheer number of calls they were receiving. 28th was the day.. Would you consider writing a post on him? This is still a very ongoing investigation, McLeland said. However, the agent said, These statements were found to be factually false and intentionally designed to deceive LEOs (Law Enforcement Officers).. The search warrant request came just over two weeks after ISP investigators interviewed Kegan Kline, the man they say was behind the Anthony_Shots social media accounts. DELPHI, Ind. I am so suspicious of Mr. Xs cemetery hangout and if the rumor about the keys being at the site is true. I just cant imagine my peers posting things like that. I was just listening to a podcast episode about the Evansdale murders, and I noticed something: 1) both sets of girls were abducted off a recreational trail, and at a point where they were blocked on both sides (in Delphi by the height of the bridge, in Evansdale by chain link fences on either side), and 2) in both cases the girls were killed and/or dumped at a local hunting ground. The tattoo has already been debunked. Suspect Richard Allen arrested in 2017 killings of 2 teens in Indiana, Four reasons a credit-card balance transfer may be a bad idea, Dont let paying for a funeral add to your grief, Beware of these pitfalls when planning your own funeral. Based on investigators experience it is reasonable to believe that the creation of an alibi prior to the discovery of a crime indicates culpability or knowledge of the crime, the agent wrote. "I don't want to put too much stock into it until I hear something from law enforcement," she added. Rozzi began his arguments by asserting that the documents should be unsealed. Our goal is to find anybody else involved in this heinous crime. Otherwise I think there is some hammer that comes down and hits the pig in the head. Im not sure about that. I dont know why more people arent talking about this connection. Thanks for your response: appreciate that. Libby's grandfather did not want the media to move on from this day. Though police have refused to comment on whether the river search is related to Kline or the Delphi murders, sources close to the investigation indicated toThe Murder Sheetpodcast that it is. Carrie added that everything she knows about it, she learned on Facebook. Apparently that was enough to shut up most of the SPMs. Delphi murders:Review the case through 5 years of reporting Initially, the media filed a motion to intervene in November, requesting the court to unseal Allen's probable cause affidavit, his . 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