By bits and pieces, they told me it was a relative that did the killing, Lawrence said in an interview earlier this month. I've never believed the catfish theory. But, I couldn't tell you much more than that. Very interesting. I wonder if the killer was law enforcement? Some say that the girls were killed inside a barn on RL's property and then later moved and during "dark hours" after LE had stopped searching. She claims the images are from a search chopper. I hope I'm just seeing things and nothing that horrific happened to the girls. But even if he is connected to local police, that wouldnt stop the FBI from moving in on him, right? What was the other one? But then they lawyer up and more harm is often done. Don't have a link, sorry, but a story at the Daily Mail today says he's been beaten up by the other inmates at the prison he's in. The reason I ask is that the murderer may have been interrupted before he could sexually assault them? I worked with a barrister once who had had to view CP images. The clip reveals a mans voice commanding someone down the hill. Authorities believe the photo and the voice belong to their only suspect in the Delphi murders. Most people think that LE knows who killed them but didn't have enough evidence. With video, audio etc, I was sure of this and thought the girl who kept her phone going was so smart. . All we have is what little knowledge we have learned from previous serial killers. If the killer(s) were local, it would only take about 3 minutes to get to the bridge. Also how did he get her exact image if it was before the murder? So very tragic. His gait seemed slower and that of an older man. eta: The blood and tissue under Libby's fingernails might be her own. His son, currently in custody, seems to be the alibi. At this point i think they should release more footage from the vid/recording as I think it would help given they obviously have zilch in terms of evidence. Small town or not, this is the 21st century. (Sic?). I still keep thinking that it probably was Chadwell. At the time, crews thought the girls had simply gotten lost on the trails and were unable to find their way back. Sick, sick, sick. So not freakishly short. You can find youtubes of the bridge and it makes you understand what it was really like. Never mind. Its been months, this guy clearly isnt the killer. That Reddit thread I posted is really heating up. Agree R183. I listened to it years ago and I just listened to it again. I thought well, maybe most women have nails like that and Ive just never noticed. R266-- I agree, that IS him. They were on another phone.". In 1962, she starred in episode 11 of TheSaint ("The Man Who Was Lucky") as Cora. Q. It just doesnt sound right. If sexual assault wasn't the motive, the motive must have been something else we're not aware of - such as a payback for a parent's debt. This perp needs to be caught and fried. He suggests that Garnett, now, 60, who has for years claimed his innocence from his prison cell at the State Correctional Institution at Dallas, may have been wrongly convicted, and is hoping to win attention for his quest from the Pennsylvania Innocence Project, which handles appeals for such cases. But the Facebook is a girlso you believe its a male? To report a factual error in any of the posts on FilmiFeed.com, please use this form. Im guessing it wasnt this guy since its been a while without any news. Have they consulted with the local oracle? On Monday, police announced that Richard Allen, 50, of Delphi, was arrested and charged with two counts of murder in the deaths of Libby and Abby. As more Delphi murders updates come in, all it takes is one phone call, according to State Police Superintendent Doug Carter. That's very short for a man. Abby Williams and Libby German, the victims of the Delphi murders. I'm not sure how I feel. When DN was temporarily a suspect he'd gone after someone with a hatchet or ax right? Holy shit! @R318-- Excellent analysis. nothing left behind in a sexual assault) or even dog DNA, since one victim was possibly bitten by a dog at some point. Holes, the retired homicide investigator, also said the app could prove helpful, as perhaps the closest thing the public has to more photos of the Delphi killings. I cant decide if hes a fraud or has inside info. They are still at the age/mind set of obeying adults without question, even subconsciously. The source also said the pose was sexual. Audible gunshots would have potentially drawn attention. An absurd amount of commercials and no new info. Someone on the Reddit thread posted an image. Kids are also social media minded and the bridge and the view made for good photos. I posted at R413. "The sketch isnt a photograph. No? It was one of precious few updates on the Delphi murders since the initial investigation. Thats why they were killed in such a brutal way. A brief audio clip, which police have always said was just a small clip of what they have from Libbys phone, was released on Feb. 22, 2017. Looks like a socio. I have read they were sexually assaulted and that they werent. Especially, when they had to be driven to the secluded location. Knives, guns, ect. Since then, no other potential suspects have been named by investigators. "We've likely interviewed you or someone close to you.". I found it odd to address two young girls as guys. Also, the man in the video did seem confident in directing two strangers down the hill. Someone in law enforcement would have had practice in directing people on what todo, where to go. "Please keep in mind that the person talking is one person and is the person on the bridge with the girls" Carter said. He didn't, the factory reset he did on his Samsung Galaxy was 9 days later, as the article says. WebPlay trailer with sound 2:43 Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK. Explaining that he had made himself a promise when he was about Delphis age to find out the circumstances surrounding her death, Lawrence waited until after March, when his 82-year-old mother, Doris Reeves Lawrence, passed away, to begin asking questions. My guess, BG acted alone and used a knife. R7 Please elaborate! I think LE has bungled it from the start. Glad Im not on Facebook. The basics: Two teen girls walking on a deserted bridge in Feb 2017 go missing and are found brutally murdered the next day, about 3/4 of a mile from the bridge. In the past three years, only one person of interest has ever been named. They seem to show a person leaning against a tree? Save a ton of time and money on investigations, get criminals in jail or in electric chairs. A woman who lives in the area of the murders had complained to the man (RL) whose barn may have been used for the murders that she saw some guy cooking meth at the cemetery. Mr Sautereau confirmed the death but refused to comment further. I thought that there was no sexual assault? I did read that the bodies were found on the opposite bank to where he forced them down the hill. At 70 years old, Delphi Lawrence height not available right now. As someone who has known drug dealers, there are no owsies in that world. There were no eyewitnesses to the crime and little forensic evidence for the jurors to consider. Making it look like a random murder / sex / pedophile crime would make sense to muddy their motive. A. Although the audio may appear to be a different voice, Indiana State Police were clear when they released it that the extended clip was all the same person. WebShe passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. Can anyone summarize? It will enhance any encyclopedic page you visit with the magic of the WIKI 2 technology. What really strikes me, though, is the photos from the Facebook account. I dont feel strongly one way or the other, but I dont think its a certainty that they or someone close to them didnt know him. My term ends in 2022 [and I] would love nothing more than to see someone convicted of this crime before I am out of office.. This case has really resonated with sleuth-wannabe fraus. I discovered this whilst setting my PVR. Just for the sake of argumentis it possible as someone mentioned upthread that it could possibly have been someone they met online that they were meeting up with to hang out? Despite having a video, audio and two sketches from potential witnesses in the area, investigators have yet to find the man responsible for their murders. Recent long list of Tobe answering questions. Do investigators believe the bridge photo and voice belong to same person? R383, It was Libby's older sister, Kelsi, who agreed to it. I had doubts before but no longer after learning more about that terrain. The cops could have taken the images and recording from the cloud. Right jacket pocket. They were a couple who killed children in the 60's in England. According to officials at the county Clerk of Courts Office, two boxes of evidence from Garnetts trial are still being held in storage. Her mother, Gladys Kent, was a classical dancer and was responsible for forming the children's dance troupe, the Kent Babes, Her father George was a musician and she grew up in Hayling Island, Hampshire, Educated at You're welcome R42 and correction: BOTH parts are airing starting at 9pm, EST on Sat., Feb 15 (not the 14th & 15th). I guess they were right. A poster upstream mentioned one of the girls' parent might have been in drug or gambling debt. On Tuesday afternoon, Kegan Anthony Kline, 27, was identified as the man behind the account. I am assuming the killer was able to force the girls off the path and "down the hill" by either brandishing a gun or pretending he had a gun in his pocket. Or not. This case must have really given hope to psychopaths out there. Why was there no mention of two girls screaming loudly while being stabbed to death? He is a serial killer. Did anything they said at either of the latest press conferences seem to fit with that theory? Crying into her potato salad over the stolen election. But posting inside a thread is okay, unless it's one of their delusional political stories. [The videos] help us know that people dont know [the true details], because the facts havent been released, Holeman said. Delphi was 76 years old at the time of death. But not to the area. I shudder to think about how he mutilated them and posed their bodies. Here's a good recap of the investigation. Ives says in this Dr Oz interview he hopes police will release more info. Danny Rollins. Using augmented reality, the image of the suspect is transposed onto the railroad bridge, along with representations of the girls. In that first sketch, shown below, detectives say the mans hat was changed to make his facial features more recognizable. R361 they were 15, not 5. R24 I would've thought the same but I read a case last year about a woman who was killed by her boyfriend, I can't remember the full details and I wish I had bookmarked the info, the guy was either in the police or had connections to the police. The townsfolk felt like they were holding their breath all that time, and on October 31, 2022, they could finally exhale. These are things that I can see but we all get our own impressions. On Saturday, March 18, 1972, Garnett was convicted of first-degree murder. This guy walks to fast. Why do you think the police have declined to publicly disclose how the girls died? The second piece of evidence is a short audio clip which was also found on Libbys phone. go ahead, tease me, blow me out. She lost a shoe on a private driveway on the side of the creek where the bodies were found. Yes indeed, we too use "cookies." In the video he looks to me like he's walking with a limp. LOL! Ok, that tattoo gave me chills. Your first thought is, the BG was some transient perv who abducted them to rape them. That person, he said, was his stepfather, Sam Whitaker. I just finished part II. There were at least 2 deer tree stands near the crime scene. The only two options arent they did it and they know who did it. She passed away on April 11, 2002 in Northport, which is located on Long Island in the state of New York, USA. I think it was a stranger. Not even close. The profile, called anthony_shots, was active between 2016 and 2017 across a number of social media platforms, including Instagram and Snapchat, police said. And yes, their deaths were violent. . R171that was my first thought when I checked her facebook pagehe's really into kidsmissing kids. R62- Do you think he was "speaking code" to the killer? The guy in the video is hunched over and walking somewhat oddly because you have to look down at the wooden slats to walk carefully on that bridge. The voice is that of a man at least 50 yrs old. Previously, police could only collect samples from those suspects who were convicted of a felony in the state. That would be the only reason they might drag their feet. Younger guy was based on a pic from Libby's phone, And that explains when the cops said "we've changed directions and you didn't think we would", They should have released a lot more information. He looks like every average white guy between 25-50 who lives in the Midwest. So their method of hardly releasing any info to make the killer be caught by slipping up (or whatever) obviously didnt work. As far as I've heard. We all knew this sick piece of shit would kill again. Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenvy has been working the Delphi Murders case for four years. He has a richer sounding name. I think the face on that tattoo is exactly what her poor face looked like when he left her there for LE. What's the update? This case has really bothered me that someone got away with doing this. Detectives who have been working the investigation for Indiana State Police and the Carroll County Sheriff's Office reached out to the public Monday looking for the public's help gathering information about the user of a social media profile. The guy is way older. Investigators have released two grainy images from that video that shows a man were to believe was behind the girls on that bridge, a short clip of that man walking, an audio recording of a man presumably the same one saying Guys. He looked away during poignant moments and gulped at one point. I still think he meant to abduct them but they messed up his plans by running and he had to recapture them. People have tweeted at her about it and she's only liking comments. But I dont think in this case it was someone who knew these girls. In cases where there were found to have been wrongful convictions, she said, 51 percent involved detailed, but false, confession. A family member dropped the girls off that afternoon with a plan to pick them up a few hours later. Why would the Delphi sheriff say that people will be shocked when they find out the identity of the killer. You can't see any such thing in a pic so low-res and Occam's Razor says it's just oversized/bulky clothing. "True Crime Jesus" on Youtube has convincing videos about different POIs. Law enforcement, when they hold back information its not to keep the public in the dark it really is to help benefit the case, Holes said in 2019. He told the jurors that he had indeed given the statement Durnell described to police, but said it had been done so under duress, coerced by a promise to let him see his mother, whom they said had been taken to the hospital upon hearing of his arrest. And hes also not lithe and skinny like a teen or young adult. our privacy/terms or if you just want to see the damn Assuming everything in that video at R500 is accurate it's pretty convincing. Oh thank you R226, R227! Libby was posting to Snapchat, so they had a good signal. (example: cause of death: spinal fractures mode of death: falling of the bridge in a suspected suicide) 8 Reply Molleeryan 6 yr. ago That's the problem with the internet. A teenage boy said that a guy who looks like Bridge Guy was sitting on a bench near another bridge in the same park but on another day, asked him for money and got mad and pushy when the teen said "No.". WebJust to remind you guys, that the 'cause of death' is not the same as the 'mode of death'. Maybe he doesn't like them looking at him. "After I started my forensics classes, I understood more of why we don't have all the answers," Kelsi said. I think he also got a sick thrill knowing how shocked and horrified they would be to see that. R57 I think theyre on a thread in the Libby and Abby Reddit sub. Electrocute his sick, sadistic, sorry ass. She died 12 years later, in 2002, aged 70, from undisclosed causes. And I guess not knowing the cause of death and WHY he did this makes it even more disturbing. Indiana State Police later revealed that the second sketch, released more than two years after the girls were killed, was actually the first sketch they had drawn up. he's clearly a fucked up guy and needs to be convicted of crimes against the girl they found. While specifying a bullet was found at the scene, nowhere in the document does it suggest that either of the two girls was shot. "The information has obviously been sharedwith us, and our investigators are looking into him," Carroll County Sheriff Tobe Leazenby said of Chadwell's case. I always thought this was lucky-psycho related. What good is it if you haven't done your investigation so that you can get a conviction. People have suggested they didnt scream because BG held a gun on them. R26 the FBI are involved, yeah. We can only guess. Like they had a name, someone to watch? Tony Slocom said at the time. WebDelphi Lawrence (Delphi Cajetana Holzman) was born on 23 March, 1932 in Hampstead, London, England, UK, is an Actress. There are about 6 guys who internet sleuths have considered as suspects who look like the police sketch. They did have their phones. Is he the guy here continually saying "No way it's him. He just needs to know when the trail exists, when it is empty, and that two women entered alone. Horrifying. These pictures from the Delphi murders featured the bridge and the surrounding countryside. These would later be some of the only clues the police had at their disposal, and the enigmatic, blurred Delphi murders video continues to haunt the internet. State police served a search warrant at a nearby property, but no arrests were made. A grease fire is too good for him. Our advice is that you just ignore this poster but whatever you do, don't click on any link to this putrid rag.]. Whoever the SOB he follows the threads closely, and more than likely gets a sick thrill from posting as well . cause of death still a mystery In addition to any mention of a second suspect, also omitted from Allen's probable cause affidavit was any detail of how Libby and Abby were killed . Is this case the result of two stupid young girls who didn't get the FUCK out of dodge when they had the chance OR a bumbling homicide department? R392 I've clearly said that the tattoo could be any of the 3 women - Libby, Linda Blair in The Exorcist or his mother. Learn How rich is She in this year and how She spends money? Not sure if same poster but another perosn said that the audio after the down the hill line was the girls screaming, which chilled me. What a fucking monster. Whats with all the secrecy from the cops? He targeted only one of them, imo. She had gone to see him on March 6, 1971, hoping he would help smooth over her parents anger at her over a youthful transgression going to a party instead of staying with her brothers at a movie. The search for Libby and Abby resumed on Valentines Day morning, Feb. 14, 2017. While interesting, I found it almost unwatchable due to the poor sound editing. It has been discussed with the FBI, but again, it is currently felt it is close to the evidentiary element. Law enforcement admits the attack was not recorded. Women hating bullies identify with him. The disclosure ended speculation that Lawrence, whose body was found by her A truck driver maybe or someone whose job requires travel. In the days following the girls murders, Libby was heralded a hero by state police for having the presence of mind to begin recording at the time she did. Nothing out there is accurate, which only leads to more false tips.. It shows how ratty the bridge was and why the killer would have been apprehensive when walking across the bridge. The wikipedia page only mentions the Indiana State Police. Investigators say the more information a tipster can give them, the better, because the more information they can enter into the system the more potential connections can be made and checked. She sent the photo to LE. For some reason i cant remember if this has ever been confirmed - but did both girls have scarves around their necks at the funerals??? This development, if you can call it that, seems desperate. "This is not two people speaking. A second sketch was released at the press conference held on April 22, 2019. And dad being bridge guy. Most notably: "The way you left them in those woods is not IS NOT what they're experiencing today". There have been texts on Reddit for years now. This is the fatal flaw. Im hooked on reading about this case. You might even have to pay before the delivery but never after. I always felt that the case would be solved by him getting caught committing another kidnapping/murder. They were also on the recording talking about him and not as though he knew him. Gawthrop, who later became a Common Pleas and U.S. District judge and who died in 1999, called Whitaker to the stand to rebut Garnetts testimony, which he did, saying that he had not left home that night. His Instagram has a lot of selfies taken on various bridges. one woman show for the BBC. Why have you never released the FBIs suspect profile to the public? Tattoo could represent the killer's type of victim. Pedophiles identify with him. This case haunts me. i was wondering about this as well. Wow! If Cheyenne did indeed call 911, the tape should be released. Some armchair detectives have even gone as far as attempting to reconstruct the murders in elaborate YouTube videos. Way back at the start (when I thought this would be satisfying to follow cuz it would be solved fast) there was online talk of shunned Amish communities around Delphi that seemed to have some promise . did that go anywhere? What I found interesting, is when she is asked about it she simply states that he was trying to help, which to me does not sound like a denial. Q. There's a Reddit thread saying the guy who accused PB is a notorious net loon who injects himself into lots of cases and shouldn't be taken seriously. Too bad this pos hasn't. When you're shown information that contradicts whatever rumor it is you want to believe, you get huffy about it. Delphi Lawrence (23 March 1932 11 April 2002) was an English actress. Investigators interviewed a Colorado resident, Daniel Nations, in connection to the Delphi murders. They have to be extremely careful not give the killer's defence ANY reason to make the jury doubt he did it. It was rarer still for someone of Garnetts young age to be charged with first-degree murder and face death row. Delphi Lawrence was born on March 23, 1932 in London, United Everyone in that town seems to know who had killed him, and where his body had been hidden and stored. The bodies were discovered after a man's attention was drawn to the sight of 2 deer. sounds pretty close to "down the hill, guys" voice. See full bio Born: The Daily Fail has an article posted today that has a suspect being investigated. She took a photo of the old guy with her cell phone because he was acting odd. Crossing the bridge was not permitted and signs were posted. The guy in the video is way older. It seems pretty in-line with their murders. [quote] Recent court documents filed refer to providing defense counsel for Keegan Kline an interview between his client and . They need to take their time and make sure they get it right and have the evidence they need to convict. Reddit and its partners use cookies and similar technologies to provide you with a better experience. Also, the she was hit in the head and never felt it sounds like wish fulfillment. No way. I really want this guy to pay. That suggests posing or staging the scene for later masturbatory purposes. Libby's photo looks like a school picture. Shins. This is one of the most frustrating unsolved crimes to me. Whoever it is in this thread who keep repeating that you can "see" multiple weapons concealed beneath Bridge Guy's clothing is nuts.